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I need help with the raptor.

Post by Ry on 17th April 2009, 00:25

When I make a dedicated server, I make all the character's the same, but the problem's that the raptor's not as fast as the other character's. I don't know why this is. The raptor should be just as fast. Does anyone know why this is? I've noticed this just doesn't happen on my server. It happens on Ice's server to. Any ideas?
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Post by CHIRAC on 17th April 2009, 03:54

when you type "mods" in the console what does it write about the raptor ?
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Post by Ry on 17th April 2009, 11:01

Admin wrote:when you type "mods" in the console what does it write about the raptor ?

1.25, but the SpeedMultiplier's set for 1.42. Ice told me to turn ALLCHARACTERS on FALSE and keep the SpeedMultiplier at 1.42 and I did that. The problem there, some character's are slow and some are too fast. The raptor's speed on it, it's 1.75. Lol. I don't know if it's through trial and error to just play around with the gm.CFG file, or if there's a way to add individual speeds for the character's through the gm.CFG file. I know there's a trainer where you can increase speed and I'd like to get it, but I don't know where to get it. I don't cheat. I'd just like to use it for the raptor. If anyone knows where I can get a trainer that allows you to make your character faster, please private message me about it. Don't say it here, because there's noobs who will use it for the wrong reasons.
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Post by B@D@SS on 17th April 2009, 12:47

raptor is lame ne ways.... but its disigned not to be any faster because... you would get gay'd all the time... you know how plinn is the second tallest and second biggest on all char not same... but on all char same... he is the shortest... weird huh
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Post by BrLi on 17th April 2009, 15:05

ROFLMAO @ Raptor lol

who would play with that

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Post by B@D@SS on 17th April 2009, 16:48

[RoH] BrLi wrote:ROFLMAO @ Raptor lol

who would play with that

thats turok2 for ya these days... wish it would just die already... that away i could uninstall the fuckin game.... only reason the game is still up is because gamespy forgot about it.. its buried down in the basement...
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Re: I need help with the raptor.

Post by Ry on 18th April 2009, 01:19

To B@D@SS
The raptor's not lame. Not when you can use plasma with it. Smile It's fucking awesome. Smile
As for the whole character height, yeah, it's weird. I just have a feeling there's a way where you can increase the speed of characters individually in the gm.CFG file, like how you add "SpeedMultiplier=1.42". It would make sense to me if there's a way to add speeds for different characters individually. Does the SpeedMultiplier speak for all characters and prevents people from actually adding in individual speeds in the gm.CFG file?

To [RoH] BrLi
I would use raptor, because you can use plasma with it. Smile

RAPTOR RULES! I see alien face, cat face, monkey face, but no dinosaur face to pick. : (
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Re: I need help with the raptor.

Post by kBg*Basber on 19th May 2009, 23:18

Ry wrote:To B@D@SS
The raptor's not lame. Not when you can use plasma with it. Smile It's fucking awesome. Smile (

The reason why the raptor has speed of 1.00 or someting at "All Characters Same" is because they made the same thing for every character... and i think they didn't even test it with that speedmultiplier thing, they just put speed 1.0 for raptor and weapon: Raptor Claw... , because it was the only different character then

Yo Raptor is still slow, even if you use plasma with it.. the key is: You just pick another character and let it look like an raptor for the other players :-D That's the way it really works, so you dont even have to cheat the weapons, you can collect them like with any other character, the only different thing is, that the other players dont see your weapon

There was a clan called "RWG" Raptor with Gun, back in 2001 i think.. And many players wanted to ban them, because they said they were cheaters... but like i said, they just had turok for example, and it was displayed as raptor... They didn't cheat the weapons and health or something (well as far as i know, they did it the way i know it... not sure if there were players who really used the raptor character and cheated the plasma and other weapons)

Well what is "cheating" at all? for me, a raptor with gun is no cheating, i think it's just for fun, just like walking out of the water and continue swimming on land... because you can't get any advantages from it, you can still die and stuff like that. Always when someone says "fucking cheater" because there is some1 up on the primagen seat in Control Room, i think "just stfu you don't know anything"... why do the players think like that!???
For me the real cheating happens in the background, for example when you use like 200 health and extra ammo and weapons that you didn't collect and Autoaim, and things that players don't see in a normal game.
And those guys who use god mode and fake names and rapidfire in a server are just noobs...

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Re: I need help with the raptor.

Post by Ry on 20th May 2009, 01:43

kBg*Basber wrote:
Ry wrote:To B@D@SS
The raptor's not lame. Not when you can use plasma with it. Smile It's fucking awesome. Smile (

The reason why the raptor has speed of 1.00 or someting at "All Characters Same" is because they made the same thing for every character... and i think they didn't even test it with that speedmultiplier thing, they just put speed 1.0 for raptor and weapon: Raptor Claw... , because it was the only different character then

Yo Raptor is still slow, even if you use plasma with it.. the key is: You just pick another character and let it look like an raptor for the other players :-D That's the way it really works, so you dont even have to cheat the weapons, you can collect them like with any other character, the only different thing is, that the other players dont see your weapon

There was a clan called "RWG" Raptor with Gun, back in 2001 i think.. And many players wanted to ban them, because they said they were cheaters... but like i said, they just had turok for example, and it was displayed as raptor... They didn't cheat the weapons and health or something (well as far as i know, they did it the way i know it... not sure if there were players who really used the raptor character and cheated the plasma and other weapons)



Well what is "cheating" at all? for me, a raptor with gun is no cheating, i think it's just for fun, just like walking out of the water and continue swimming on land... because you can't get any advantages from it, you can still die and stuff like that. Always when someone says "fucking cheater" because there is some1 up on the primagen seat in Control Room, i think "just stfu you don't know anything"... why do the players think like that!???
For me the real cheating happens in the background, for example when you use like 200 health and extra ammo and weapons that you didn't collect and Autoaim, and things that players don't see in a normal game.
And those guys who use god mode and fake names and rapidfire in a server are just noobs...

When you said..

"Yo Raptor is still slow, even if you use plasma with it.. the key is: You just pick another character and let it look like an raptor for the other players :-D That's the way it really works, so you dont even have to cheat the weapons, you can collect them like with any other character, the only different thing is, that the other players dont see your weapon"

How? I have a trainer myself, but I only wanted it to boost the speed for the Raptor, to make the speed even, because the Raptor's slow, use the Plasma Rifle with the Raptor and fly. I only wanted fly, but not only for myself, but for others, so we could have air battles. Lolz. After seeing fly, I have to say it looks like shit and it wasn't what I imagined it to be and I scratched the air battle idea out off my list, but I'm able to have any gun with the Raptor. I have to pick up the weapon and ammo, which's the way I'd want to do it, but of course I'm not fast and with what you've said, that doesn't make any sense. I have the RWG trainer, which only allows you to have a gun with the Raptor, but it doesn't let you choose weapons, meaning you have to pick the weapon you'd like, because if you don't, you have to waste the ammo or suicide, because you can't change weapons. It has a 3x speed thing, but it puts you in slow motion with other characters. How would I go about making myself Turok, but I'm really the Raptor through the eyes of my opponents? Or is this only done with a trainer?
I don't think it's cheating either. I just think people don't have the program, so they think it's cheating. If everybody had it, then there would be no problem, but the main problem's that there could be other things on the trainer which could be used to fuck up any game on any server and that stuff shouldn't get leaked into the open. To find a trainer just for Raptor with weapon choice, it sounds just about impossible in my opinion. Even still, I stopped the whole Plasma Rifle with the Raptor. Lolz. The Raptor was either too fast when character's weren't the same or too slow with all character's the same.
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Post by icekilla on 20th May 2009, 04:48

It's cheating if you're using raptor with gun in all char diff. Cuz raptor is too fucking fast as it is, and then U put a gun on him...lol. Plus, his node is smaller also and not to mention the faster U are like Adon...the lower the health its gunna take from ur opponets...which wouldnt apply to the raptor. It'd be different in all char same and using the raptor going the same speed as everyone else and having the same node. That right there, I have no problem with at all.
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Post by Ry on 20th May 2009, 06:51

icekilla wrote:It's cheating if you're using raptor with gun in all char diff. Cuz raptor is too fucking fast as it is, and then U put a gun on him...lol. Plus, his node is smaller also and not to mention the faster U are like Adon...the lower the health its gunna take from ur opponets...which wouldnt apply to the raptor. It'd be different in all char same and using the raptor going the same speed as everyone else and having the same node. That right there, I have no problem with at all.

I think it would be harder to shoot with the Raptor than to claw with the Raptor in my opinion. The claw can kill in one hit to and even if it doesn't kill in one hit, still, it's incredibly fast and doesn't take that many hits to kill the person compared to the knife. I've died in only 1-2 claw slashes from the Raptor and died and it happened faster than I could blink. I doubt anybody could handle the 1.75 speed of the Raptor with a gun. That speed's just too much to handle in my opinion, but it's all about practice.
Also the Raptor can't pick up any bonus +2 or Ultra Health, so I think it's fair to have a choice between speed or health, but that's only if there's a health bonus server.
I still think it's not cheating, but if everybody had the program, then it would be fair, but like I said above, I doubt you'll find a program just so you can use weapons with the Raptor. I'm sure those people who have seen Hector would know if he got his hands on something more, than Turok 2's over with, because he'll never stop shooting through walls as it is and I know he'll never stop using fly, auto aim, rapid fire, invincibility and who knows what else, if he gets his hands on the right program. Lolz. He's asked for the program/s before but nobody's given it to him. He might actually get his hands on the program one day.
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Re: I need help with the raptor.

Post by kBg*Basber on 20th May 2009, 11:47

Yea with that RWG Trainer you got to cheat weapons, that sucks..
In all chars diff you got to cheat the weapons to the raptor...
I dont know if you understood what i was trying to say, i just talked about All Chars Same, where i'm still the turok with speed of the speedmultiplier and other players see me as a raptor, so there i can just collect weapons because i'm still turok, i got a screenshot of what i mean:


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Post by Hexx on 20th May 2009, 23:30

Don't mind what you discuss here :-D
From my point of view it's cheating and it's not allowed in the tournament :-D
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Re: I need help with the raptor.

Post by Ry on 21st May 2009, 00:44

kBg*Basber wrote:Yea with that RWG Trainer you got to cheat weapons, that sucks..
In all chars diff you got to cheat the weapons to the raptor...
I dont know if you understood what i was trying to say, i just talked about All Chars Same, where i'm still the turok with speed of the speedmultiplier and other players see me as a raptor, so there i can just collect weapons because i'm still turok, i got a screenshot of what i mean:


I don't cheat weapons though with the RWG Trainer. I have to pick up weapons and ammo, like anybody else, which's what I'd want, but how do you make yourself Turok while you're the Raptor? This's the part which I don't understand.
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Post by Ry on 21st May 2009, 00:46

Hexx wrote:Don't mind what you discuss here :-D
From my point of view it's cheating and it's not allowed in the tournament :-D

Lol. I don't think that's fair, but I think that's fair if people don't have the program to be able to have the choice for themself. Having a gun with the Raptor would just mean the Raptor has a gun. The person as the Raptor would still have to pick up other weapons and ammo, so it's not like it's cheating. But even still, nobody would choose to be the Raptor, because the Raptor's slow when all character's are the same. Lolz.
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Post by Hexx on 21st May 2009, 01:44

Nevertheless it's not part of the original game so it won't be allowed at the T2 Torunament 2009
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Post by Ry on 21st May 2009, 04:17

Hexx wrote:Nevertheless it's not part of the original game so it won't be allowed at the T2 Torunament 2009

Bla, bla. Lolz. I agree how it's not part of the game, but even still, like I said above, who would play with a slow Raptor. Lolz. I think if they wanted to use the slow Raptor then let them. They'll just be a free frag in my opinion. xD But if they still aren't allowed to use the Raptor, then ok. =) It would just be easier killing them. :O XD
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